From: Brent McLaren To: All Thread: BGFAX & Winfossil (1/8) Date: 22-May-97, 10:32pm (Ref# 5351) Hello All! I know there has been allot of talk of BGFAX not working with Winfossil. Has anyone had any luck getting this working. Looks like I have the perfect system for BGFAX. Using Winfossil, and RA in shell to mailer mode. I can switch away from shell to mailer mode, but I would like to keep Winfossil. Any sudjestions would be greatly appriciated. System Setup. FD 2.20c.mL and RA 2.50+ in Shell to mailer mode Winfossil 1.12.004. Courier V.Everything 486-133 32m ram running Win95. Thank you in advance. Brent --- FastEcho 1.46 * Origin: House of Fire BBS - Net250 NEC/HUB 5 - (416)601-0085 (1:250/99)
From: David Bate To: Brent McLaren Thread: Re: BGFAX & Winfossil (2/8) Date: 23-May-97, 11:41pm (Ref# 5355) Hello Brent! Thursday May 22 1997 22:32, Brent McLaren wrote to All: BM> I know there has been allot of talk of BGFAX not working with BM> Winfossil. Has anyone had any luck getting this working. Looks like BM> I have the perfect system for BGFAX. Using Winfossil, and RA in BM> shell to mailer mode. I can switch away from shell to mailer mode, BM> but I would like to keep Winfossil. I have had no problems with WinFossil, RA and Binkley or BGFax/32, it is BGfax DOS that freezes up on me. And wouldn't you know it that it was the DOS version I registered.. :) David ][ 23:41 on Friday May 23 1997 ET 1:229/618 David.Bate@Lodgeware.Gryn.Org --- FastEcho/32 1.46.1+ * Origin: Space Lodge Bowmanville ON (905)697-2935 (1:229/618)
From: Austin Phelps To: Brent McLaren Thread: BGFAX & Winfossil (3/8) Date: 25-May-97, 6:47pm (Ref# 5364) On May 22 22:32 97, Brent McLaren of 1:250/99 wrote: BM> I know there has been allot of talk of BGFAX not working with Winfossil. I have Bgfax working with Winfossil. BM> Any sudjestions would be greatly appriciated. I lock my ports at 19,200. Any other speed and Bgfax won't work. BM> System Setup. [system setup deleted] Your system is almost the same as mine except I have a DX2 (66 MHz) and a generic 14.4 modem (class 1 & 2. I run in Class 2 mode). Austin --- Msgedsq 3.20 * Origin: Lightning Strikes Here II - Orlando, Florida (1:363/263)
From: Brent McLaren To: David Bate Thread: BGFAX & Winfossil (4/8) Date: 26-May-97, 7:15pm (Ref# 5367) David Bate wrote in a message to Brent McLaren: DB> I have had no problems with WinFossil, RA and Binkley or BGFax/32, DB> it is BGfax DOS that freezes up on me. And wouldn't you know it DB> that it was the DOS version I registered.. :) Thank you. Finally got it working. I was missing the 'f' in the port identifier. Works great. And I am still running RA in shell to mailer mode. No problems. Glad I have a USR though. That way I don't run into the Shift->19200 problem. Thank you. Brent --- FastEcho 1.46 * Origin: House of Fire BBS - Net250 NEC/HUB 5 - (416)601-0085 (1:250/99)
From: Kit Ballantyne To: All Thread: BGFAX & Winfossil (5/8) Date: 26-May-97, 6:37am (Ref# 5368) -> Hello All! -> -> I know there has been allot of talk of BGFAX not working with Winfoss -> anyone had any luck getting this working. Looks like I have the -> perfect system for BGFAX. Using Winfossil, and RA in shell to -> mailer mode. I can switch away from shell to mailer mode, but I -> would like to keep Winfossil. I use version 1.11 of Winfossil because I have heard rumors that later version are buggy. I don't know. I never tried any later versions. In any case I am running ViaMail as a front end/mailer and it kicks to Wildcat when BBS calls come in and to BgFax when fax calls come in. Works great. -> Any sudjestions would be greatly appriciated. The only "sudjestions" I would have would be to use an earlier version of Winfossil. I hope this works. --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Praise OutReach BBS ~ Salt Lake City, Utah (1:311/57)
From: B.J. Guillot To: Brent McLaren Thread: BGFAX %& Winfossil (6/8) Date: 31-May-97, 2:14pm (Ref# 5379) > I know there has been allot of talk of BGFAX not working with Winfossil. Has > anyone had any luck getting this working. Looks like I have the perfect > system for BGFAX. Using Winfossil, and RA in shell to mailer mode. I can > switch away from shell to mailer mode, but I would like to keep Winfossil. One of the significant problems I noticed with WinFOSSIL was that the WinFOSSIL utility program that was supposed to unlock the port didn't work. (Unless I was doing something really, really stupid.) However, since you are using a Courier modem, there is no need to unlock the port, since the fax is received at the same DTE speed that you stay locked at. The FD-USR.TXT file that comes with BGFAX should provide enough details to get you pointed in the right direction. One thing you might have to do is tell BGFAX to actually use the FOSSIL com port, i.e., for COM1, tell BGFAX "F1" instead of just "1". Also, you may have to "help out" BGFAX by telling it what speed you are actually locking at by adding the /DTE:57600 switch to the end of the BGFAX command line. (Where "57600" is, of course, replaced by whatever speed you lock your modem at.) Regards, bgfax author
From: Brent McLaren To: B.J. Guillot Thread: BGFAX %& Winfossil (7/8) Date: 02-Jun-97, 0:22am (Ref# 5394) B.J. Guillot wrote in a message to Brent McLaren: BJG> One of the significant problems I noticed with WinFOSSIL was that BJG> the WinFOSSIL utility program that was supposed to unlock the port BJG> didn't work. Does anyone know if the WinFOSSIL is going to be developed any further. I was on his web site, and noticed that he has a NT version of WinFOSSIL that supports virtual modems (Telnet). Would be nice if he added this to the Win95 version. The NT version was BETA, and it looks like it has not been updated in a while. (The web site still has a '1996 Copyright') BJG> One thing you might have to do is tell BGFAX to actually use the BJG> FOSSIL com port, i.e., for COM1, tell BGFAX "F1" instead of just BJG> "1". I found that out about 2 days after I posted my message. Works fine now. Some one else's message tipped me off. When I went looking for it in the documentation, I only found it in an example. It was not mentioned with the command line options. Also, it was not mentioned in the FD-USR help file. Would it not be prudent for anyone running in rear end mode to put this option in?? Almost every mailer that I know requires a fossil. At least it should be part of the command line documented in FD-USR.TXT Thanks for replying to my message though. BJG> Also, you may have to "help out" BGFAX by telling it what speed BJG> you are actually locking at by adding the /DTE:57600 switch to the BJG> end of the BGFAX command line. (Where "57600" is, of course, BJG> replaced by whatever speed you lock your modem at.) Yes, BGFAX reported my DTE rate as 38400 no matter if it was at 57600 or 115000. This should not matter though when you are running a locked fossil, does it? The only thing that should be wrong is the display, as the application can't change it any ways. It seemed to work either way, but I added this option to make it look right. See ya. Brent --- FastEcho 1.46 * Origin: House of Fire BBS - Net250 NEC/HUB 5 - (416)601-0085 (1:250/99)
From: B.J. Guillot To: Brent McLaren Thread: BGFAX %& Winfossil (8/8) Date: 19-Jun-97, 1:23pm (Ref# 5417) > Does anyone know if the WinFOSSIL is going to be developed any further. I was > on his web site, and noticed that he has a NT version of WinFOSSIL that > supports virtual modems (Telnet). Would be nice if he added this to the Win9 > version. The NT version was BETA, and it looks like it has not been updated > a while. (The web site still has a '1996 Copyright') I don't know. I know that Bryan Woodruff was very excited about BGFAX, and even registered a copy with me. However, he just seemed to disappear a while back and I haven't heard from him since. > I found that out about 2 days after I posted my message. Works fine now. > Some one else's message tipped me off. When I went looking for it in the > documentation, I only found it in an example. It was not mentioned with the > command line options. Also, it was not mentioned in the FD-USR help file. Yes, generally, I try to tell people to NOT use FOSSIL drivers, because they were not really designed with fax software in mind, and it usually ends up causing more confusion that it would otherwise. However, with WinFOSSIL, it seems BGFAX/DOS is sometimes not able to talk to the modem without using BGFAX's FOSSIL mode. > Would it not be prudent for anyone running in rear end mode to put this optio > in?? Almost every mailer that I know requires a fossil. At least it should > part of the command line documented in FD-USR.TXT No. Absolutely not. As I said before, FOSSIL's were not designed with fax in mind. And, every time I e-mail a FOSSIL author asking if they would be willing to help get some things straightned out, they usually either don't respond or say there's no point in spending the effort to get them fixed. The two main problems with FOSSILs are that there is no way to detect what DTE speed the port has been locked to. That's why many times, you have the add the /DTE:nnnnn switch to the end of BGFAX when you use it with FOSSIL drivers. Also, almost everyone that uses a FOSSIL driver LOCKS it at a certain speed. This is horrible for fax software because many fax modems require that the DTE speed be shifted to 19200. BGFAX can't make the shift to 19200 unless the FOSSIL is first unlocked using an external program. Some FOSSIL drivers do not even have unlock utilties (ADF, and OneFOSSIL, I believe don't have them). WinFOSSIL does, but it doesn't actually unlock the port, so it's quite useless. I asked some of the FOSSIL authors if they would be willing to tell me what internal commands they use to unlock the FOSSIL drivers so that BGFAX could do it itself, but they never would give me this information. Also, FOSSIL drivers don't universally support speeds greater than 19200 (or is it 38400?), and that makes reseting the speed when the fax is done problematic with some FOSSILs. (Extended FOSSIL's like X00 doesn't have this problem, assuming the FOSSIL has already been unlocked.) I almost wonder if I should write my own FOSSIL, but I don't know if I have the skills to do such a thing. Regards, bgfax author