From: Bill White To: Matt Weese Thread: 2-sided printing (1/6) Date: 21-May-97, 4:39pm (Ref# 5347) BG> > Last thing, just bugging you again (for the second year, now BG> > registered) to add "odd and even" page printing for people to BG> > flip the pages over easily, printing the odd first then the even. BG> > The even pages could be printed in reverse order, so that we BG> > wouldn't have to reorder the stack of paper... Anyone else like BG> > this paper-saving idea? BG> I've only had you, and maybe one other person strongly request this. BG> Haven't had time to look into the feasibility of it yet. There is a way to accomplish this that I have used a couple of times. It's a little messy, but it has worked the few times I've wanted it: I convert the file to PCX format, bring the pages into WordPerfect and print in the desired order from there. You can probably do the same with your word processor. FIDO: Bill White @ 1:135/110 (Miami) InterNet: bill.white@110.sunshine.com * SLMR 2.1a * "Fiber Optics" isn't another new cereal! --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Miami Amateur Computer Club BBS/USR Courier V.E (1:135/110)
From: Matt Weese To: Bill White Thread: 2-sided printing (2/6) Date: 23-May-97, 4:30pm (Ref# 5353) 21 May 97 16:39, Bill White wrote to Matt Weese: BW> I convert the file to PCX format, bring the pages BW> into WordPerfect and print in the desired order from BW> there. You can probably do the same with your word BW> processor. No, mine is an old Bill Gates wp. But I may be able to find one that will. Thanks for the suggestion. It's a roundabout way, and I'd still like to see it included in View (shouldn't be but a few lines of code). Every little bit of engergy is needed with me. --- {Mnemonic Oubliette} --- * Origin: +1 918 455 5806 BBS/FAX, 64000bps, Broken Arrow, OK, 0 (1:170/853)
From: Bill White To: Matt Weese Thread: 2-sided printing (3/6) Date: 24-May-97, 3:27pm (Ref# 5358) MW> BW> I convert the file to PCX format, bring the pages MW> BW> into WordPerfect and print in the desired order from MW> BW> there. You can probably do the same with your word MW> BW> processor. MW> No, mine is an old Bill Gates wp. But I may be able to MW> find one that will. Thanks for the suggestion. It's a MW> roundabout way, and I'd still like to see it included in MW> View (shouldn't be but a few lines of code). Every little MW> bit of engergy is needed with me. Well, actually, I lied! DCX converts the document to a multi-page PCX file, which won't work with WordPerfect, so I convert to PCX making multiple files. Each page (file) is then brought into WordPerfect. If your word processor can't convert a PCX file..... Here's another possible suggestion that depends on your printer. I am using a HP DeskJet 682C, which uses plain paper. If there is no paper in the bin, it stops and waits for me to put it in. OK, so put in a single sheet and print page 1. Invert the sheet, print page 2. New sheet for page 3, invert for page 4. Messy, too, but perhaps you can adopt something like that to your system. It might be a nice feature to include in View, but look at another side. I have watched WordPerfect grow from 5.0 to 5.1 to 6.0 to 6.1, with various interim releases in between. Each release added features some people thought would be nice. Each time, the program is larger and slower. At the time I went from 5.1 to 6.0, I also went from a 286 to a 486. The increased speed of my computer was offset by the slower program. 6.1 was even slower: WordPerfect now takes me 13 seconds to load. It has many features I will never use and I'm sure others use features I don't. In order to satisfy all possible user desires, the program has become bloated. I wish it were more modular so I could pick the features I want and the others don't load. But that complicates the program, too. Those features that are in separate modules take time to load when they are called. Grammatik, for example. View is no where near having this problem - yet! FIDO: Bill White @ 1:135/110 (Miami) InterNet: bill.white@110.sunshine.com * SLMR 2.1a * The wise man knows a little; the wise guy knows it all! --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Miami Amateur Computer Club BBS/USR Courier V.E (1:135/110)
From: B.J. Guillot To: Matt Weese Thread: 2-sided printing (4/6) Date: 31-May-97, 2:17pm (Ref# 5380) > No, mine is an old Bill Gates wp. But I may be able to find one that will. > Thanks for the suggestion. It's a roundabout way, and I'd still like to see > included in View (shouldn't be but a few lines of code). Every little bit of > engergy is needed with me. It's not really very easy to do. There are numerous conditions that have to be considered. For example, what do you do when you have the condition that a fax page, when printed, turns out to be LONGER than a standard piece of printing paper. If you print the remaining part on the next page, then your odd/even page sequence gets all out of sync. If you simply drop the last part of the page, then you'll have people complain that part of the fax is missing. Some fax machines can stream two and three pages into a single page. (Anyone's whose ever had the mispleasure of sending faxes on a real-life fax machine knows they sometimes like to suck more than one piece of paper down on accident.) Also, for QFAX and TIFF-F files, there are pointers in the file that will let VIEW know where each page begins. With ZFAX formatted files, there are no pointers, so it is not very easy to randomly jump around from page to page. Regards, bgfax author
From: B.J. Guillot To: Bill White Thread: 2-sided printing (5/6) Date: 31-May-97, 2:22pm (Ref# 5382) > Here's another possible suggestion that depends on > your printer. I am using a HP DeskJet 682C, which > uses plain paper. If there is no paper in the bin, it > stops and waits for me to put it in. OK, so put in a > single sheet and print page 1. Invert the sheet, print > page 2. New sheet for page 3, invert for page 4. Another thing you could do is to manually print each page from within VIEW.EXE. Load the fax, and press Control-Enter when Page 1 is on the screen. Then hit PgDn twice to get to Page 3, and press Control-Enter again. Do this until you run out of odd pages, and then jump back (Alt-J) to page 2, and do the same for even pages. It will involve hitting a lot of keys, but at least you will not have to flip back and forth between applications and loading individual PCX files and/or flipping paper over more than once. Regards, bgfax author
From: Bill White To: B.J. Guillot Thread: 2-sided printing (6/6) Date: 01-Jun-97, 1:13pm (Ref# 5396) BG> Another thing you could do is to manually print each page from BG> within VIEW.EXE. Well, darn, I missed that when I read VIEW.DOC - I didn't realize you could print just one page. I was going by the directions at the bottom of the LIST screen. Glad to know this. Thanks, Bill FIDO: Bill White @ 1:135/110 (Miami) InterNet: bill.white@110.sunshine.com * SLMR 2.1a * ...Tagline provided by Johnson & Johnson ۰ --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Miami Amateur Computer Club BBS/USR Courier V.E (1:135/110)